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Darthricardo (User)
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Re:Using Men at Arms effectively 1 Year, 8 Months ago
Wait, so if I understand correctly, using spears allows them to keep their armour save bonus from the shield, right? That could be pretty useful.
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Viscount Wolf (Moderator)
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Re:Using Men at Arms effectively 1 Year, 8 Months ago
As a rule i avoid giving them spears. I find that the extra strength point from halberds is more useful than an extra rank of attacks and extra point of armour. Given that against strong opponents you are only going to be getting a 6+ save at best with spears and probably losing the combat anyway, and against weaker opponents you would do better with halberds for the extra damage.

However, that is not to say there is no use for them: a wall of spears, especially in horde, could prove quite useful against certain opponents - i'm thinking along the lines of clanrats but i don't have time to work out the maths at the moment.

Choppy death all the way for me, but i suppose it depends on your tendencies to attack or defend.

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Re:Using Men at Arms effectively 1 Year, 8 Months ago
If they would keep the parry save, it would be a good option to go with spears, but we only get the parry save if we use normal sword and shield.
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Viscount Wolf (Moderator)
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Re:Using Men at Arms effectively 1 Year, 8 Months ago
Which we can't. You have to use a special weapon if you have one so we HAVE to choose between Halberds or Spears!

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For King & Country....

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possumman (User)
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Re:Using Men at Arms effectively 1 Year, 8 Months ago
I use halberds every time. This is a copy/paste of my post from another thread:


I always deploy my 45 MAA in a horde, with halberds, and I use them aggressively. At the end of the day, they're low WS and have crap armour, however you use them. Longevity is not their forte. So, if they can't survive well, their purpose must be to kill things. 30 S4 attacks is not to be sniffed at in combat, and with a large unit you can happily inflict 50 S4 attacks over 2 rounds of combat (just one Bretonnian game turn). I'd happily pay that many points for a 50-strong one-shot-only crossbow unit. And MAA have the added advantage of occasionally fighting to the last man.
That unit of 30 frenzied great weapon wielding troops need cutting down to size? If you would fire 50 crossbows at it, charge your MAA into it.

(Of course, the added side benefit comes against blocks of 100 skaven slaves that are deployed 5 wide. By deployign 10 wide, and equipping halberds, you EASILY win combat with sheer strength and volume of attacks, with the added bonus of actually killing some of the bastards.)
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