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Written by Sir Guy des Bontemps   
Monday, 18 August 2008
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This article provides some techniques you can use to modify your GW Bretonnian miniatures to help make them unique and customised.

 

Background

My collection of GW Bretonnians comprises almost exclusively 5th edition miniatures, since I am not a fan of the 6th edition ones. However, I’d been collecting Bretonnians since well before the 6th edition was even hinted at. Therefore, having collected the full range of the 5th edition Bretonnians, I wanted to expand my army whilst trying to avoid duplicating the individual miniatures. So I begrudgingly started adding 6th edition Bretonnians.

I feel I should explain why I don’t like the 6th edition Bretonnians. It’s all the ‘fluff’! And by fluff, I mean all the shields, ribbons, straps and other paraphernalia that seem to cover every surface of the horses and figures in the range. Don’t get me wrong, I love the multi-part assembly options for all the plastic figures and horses. I love the fantastic level of moulded detailing of the plastic miniatures. I just hate all the fluff. Therefore, I remove all the unwanted detail, so that I can expand my Bretonnian army without losing its medieval theme (See “Alternative Miniatures to GW Bretonnians” to find out more background information about other miniatures I’ve used in my Bretonnian army).  

In addition to my wanting to maintain the medieval appearance of my Bretonnians, I like to modify my miniatures in small ways to introduce an element of customisation, and thereby make them unique. I accomplish this objective through simple methods, such as replacing the plastic banners and standards with my own home-made ones; replacing some of the weapons and helmets or heads with ones from accessory sets produced by other manufacturers of 28mm scale miniatures; and by using my own home-made water-slide decals to add the heraldic designs to my Bretonnians (See “Bretonnian heraldry – a more traditional approach” to find out more background information about my Bretonnian army’s heraldry). 

I therefore thought it might be helpful to share some of the techniques I use to modify my Bretonnians to accomplish their customisation. This article covers the following techniques:

  • Replacing a plastic banner with a home-made one.

  • Replacing helmets, heads and weapons with ones produced by other 28mm miniature manufacturers.

  • Removing unwanted details from a 6th edition Bretonnian warhorse.

So if any of these are of interest to you, then please read on.


Last Updated ( Tuesday, 19 August 2008 )
 
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Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 06:01
Hi fellow members,
I'm creating this new topic thread for anyone to discuss the techniques covered in: http://www.roundtable-bretonnia.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=561&Itemid=1

I'd also welcome any feedback or comments.

Sir Guy
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 12:56
Great article!

I just linked this discussion topic with the content article (You'll see when opening the article). Everyone can do that by using the little "Discussion" button in the Editor and choosing the right forum category when editing articles.
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 13:15
Guillaume,

Thanks for the feedback / comment.

Doh! I was wondering how folks managed to link discussions to their articles.
You're a star!
Many thanks.

Sir Guy
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 15:05
This article is worth reading and contains many information.
For my part I always wondered how you could effectively remove those shields on the horses' harnesses.
Now I know.

I am sure you put a lot of effort into this on and it was worth it.
Good one.
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 20:41
Excellent article Sir Guy!

As a quick technical question, do you have any trouble making paint adhere to the foil banners, or is it just a case of priming well? An alternative I have used is old roller-blind fabric, which has a nice tapestry texture to it.
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 21:17
Sir Agravaine.

Many thanks for your feedback.
Much appreciated.

Yes, a technique I use, which I forgot to include in the article , is to give the surface of the lead / aluminium foil a light rub over with either the fine grade Wet & Dry paper or fine grade Wire Wool, so that it lightly scores the surface of the foil and provides a 'key' for the paint to adhere to better.
That's also why I suggest bending the foil into shape before painting it and also to seal it with either gloss or matt varnish after, to help seal and protect the paint from any chance of flaking off due to general wear and tear.

I've not thought of using old roller-blind fabric as an alternative material.
Doesn't it appear a bit too thick, scale-wise, though for a banner / standard?
Also, what do you use to help stiffen the fabric so that it holds some sort of appearnace of fluttering / movement, PVA glue or is the paint sufficient once it's dried?

Sir Guy
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 21:18
many thanks for your feedback, Lamorte.

Sir Guy
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 19 2008 22:49
A great article Sir Guy! I'm currently in the process of adding 6th Edition figures to my army(my existing ones are all 5th or older as well ) so this has been immensely useful in helping maintain the existing aesthetic style of the older models!

A quick question; what are the virtues of a foil banner over a simple paper or card one? Is foil easier to work with, does it produce better results etc.?
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 20 2008 00:32
Doesn't it appear a bit too thick, scale-wise, though for a banner / standard?
Also, what do you use to help stiffen the fabric so that it holds some sort of appearnace of fluttering / movement, PVA glue or is the paint sufficient once it's dried?


They do tend to look more like an old, heavy, embroidered tapestry banner from the saxon/norman period than a fluttery banners from medieval time. I got rid of all my old banner when I stripped the paint from my old 5th edition minis to re-use them recently, so I don't have any pics.

Provided you stiffen the places where the banner meets the pole with PVA/superglue, the banner is quite stiff, just curl it round the blades of some scissors (primary school style!) to make it curved. The banner then holds its shape, but is still flexible which makes ranking up really easy!

I really don't know about these new fangled plastic banners GW has made now, they look nice on some kits, but the bret ones just look a little gigantic and fat. I've never really gone to town painting one so I shall reserve my final opinion till then.

Cheers!
Re:Techniques for Modifying Bretonnian Miniatures Aug 20 2008 05:32
Thibault,

Thanks for your feedback.
Pleased to know that the article is proving useful to you.

The use of lead or aluminium foil is a personal preference based on the fact that I wanted a surface to which I can apply water slide decals, rather than draw and paint designs onto paper.
Also, foil is harder wearing and more robust than paper and it can be shaped and cut easily, while still being as thin as, say, 80gsm paper.

Sir Guy
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